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New 'Google' For the Dark Web Makes Buying Dope and Guns Easy

timothy posted about 4 months ago | from the and-you'd-trust-this-because dept.

Crime 156

First time accepted submitter turkeydance (1266624) writes "The dark web just got a little less dark with the launch of a new search engine that lets you easily find illicit drugs and other contraband online. Grams, which launched last week and is patterned after Google, is accessible only through the Tor anonymizing browser (the address for Grams is: grams7enufi7jmdl.onion) but fills a niche for anyone seeking quick access to sites selling drugs, guns, stolen credit card numbers, counterfeit cash and fake IDs — sites that previously only could be found by users who knew the exact URL for the site."

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Oh man (0, Troll)

PenisLands (930247) | about 4 months ago | (#46797145)

Ah yeah man my penis. Big PENIS.

Re:Oh man (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797643)

You do know today is opposite day?

Re:Oh man (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797671)

so, he really said "Ah no woman your your penis. little PENIS."?

Re:Oh man (0, Troll)

sexconker (1179573) | about 4 months ago | (#46797713)

Ooh no woman your vagina. Little VAGINA.

Yeah, you can probably find your penis there too (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797711)

Grams:
* The search engine where you can find all kinds of things, including penises that are so small they should be illegal.

One gram:
* The approximate mass of the parent-poster's penis.

Wisdom (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797149)

Chemicals are stepping stones for cumfarting.

Since when is every search engine Google? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797151)

Remember back in the day when we had other search engines? Yeah, most of them were kinda terrible in comparison to Google. Every time I hear someone refer to their search engine as "Google for..." they've also been terrible. Google became king of search because they were so much better than everyone else.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797205)

No. No one remembers the days before Google. History has been rewritten.

Altavista? (2)

mmell (832646) | about 4 months ago | (#46797269)

(n/t)

Re:Altavista? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797429)

I really miss the NEAR keyword. Unless you're searching for a specific phrase in quotes, it was the best way to search.

Astalavista (0)

fred911 (83970) | about 4 months ago | (#46797517)

N/T

Re:Astalavista (1)

Extide (1002782) | about 4 months ago | (#46798149)

even hack.box.sk before that

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (4, Informative)

n1ywb (555767) | about 4 months ago | (#46797279)

I remember Archie. And Veronica. And I just got the references after all these years.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

JoeMerchant (803320) | about 4 months ago | (#46797295)

And, before FTP, there was Kermit...

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

Nikker (749551) | about 4 months ago | (#46797525)

And Zmodem :)

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (4, Informative)

arth1 (260657) | about 4 months ago | (#46797553)

zmodem was several generations newer.
kermit -> xmodem -> ymodem -> zmodem

I still use uucp, by the way. For communicating with faraway sites where the connection depends on a shaky cell phone connection that may or may not be up, it's a pretty good way of moving e-mail and logs.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | about 4 months ago | (#46797819)

...and before TOR, there was gopher.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

fred911 (83970) | about 4 months ago | (#46797533)

Kermet was just a terminal emulator. Before FTP we used Zmodem.

Kermit (2)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#46797725)

Kermet was just a terminal emulator

Kermit allowed for file transfers.

Wikipedia entry [wikipedia.org] for Kermit, as of 23:20, 28 January 2014.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797303)

You must be mistaken. No one remembers the days before Google.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (2)

mspohr (589790) | about 4 months ago | (#46797393)

I remember Alta Vista... the best search engine in its day... now it just redirects to Yahoo :(

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797421)

Yahoo being about as good as bing for search nowadays...

I take it there's not a whole lot of comments because everybody's on TOR browsing summary address.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

arth1 (260657) | about 4 months ago | (#46797523)

I take it there's not a whole lot of comments because everybody's on TOR browsing summary address.

Ah, in that case, don't worry.

They'll be back the day after tomorrow, when tor has returned results...

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (3, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#46797729)

I take it there's not a whole lot of comments because everybody's on TOR browsing summary address.

Ah, in that case, don't worry.

They'll be back the day after tomorrow, when tor has returned results...

Now there you go again, being overly optimistic.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46798105)

Yahoo being about as good as bing for search nowadays...

I should hope, as Yahoo search is powered by Bing.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797527)

Since gram patterned their site to look like google

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

user32.ExitWindowsEx (250475) | about 4 months ago | (#46797653)

I tried using Google to search for articles on the era before Google, but it returned nothing.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797945)

Actually, life before Google returns approximately 1,890,000,000 results, and that phrase specifically returns about 98,000 results.

Re:Since when is every search engine Google? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46798055)

Google became king of search because they were so much better than everyone else.

With emphasis on "were". Good luck searching for something without having them messing up you query with their "intelligent parsing". They should have a checkbox labeled "I know what I am looking for".

If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (4, Insightful)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | about 4 months ago | (#46797171)

...it'll let the Feds find them just as easily....

Or does anyone seriously think the NSA can't use this service just as well as Random Internet Idiot?

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (5, Funny)

Wrexs0ul (515885) | about 4 months ago | (#46797187)

...it'll let the Feds find them just as easily....

Or does anyone seriously think the NSA can't use this service just as well as Random Internet Idiot?

Who says the NSA doesn't run the site [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (4, Insightful)

russotto (537200) | about 4 months ago | (#46797213)

Who says the NSA doesn't run the site?

I think ATF or DEA is more likely.

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797359)

You mean like Fast and Furious?

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/atf-fast-furious-sg,0,3828090.storygallery#axzz2zNkfk1Vt

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797391)

Nah, NSA takes the orders and passes on the orders to the ATF/DEA who does the dropshipping.

They got to get rid of all the shit they seize somehow. Presidents and Congress Critters amazingly don't use it all up.

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (3, Insightful)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 4 months ago | (#46797485)

I would rather hit myself in the head with a brick than purchase something illicit from a stranger over the internet.

How do those culpable enough to consummate such a transaction afford it after giving all that money to the Nigerian Prince?

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (1)

MaskedSlacker (911878) | about 4 months ago | (#46797563)

How do those culpable enough to consummate such a transaction afford it after giving all that money to the Nigerian Prince?

If ever there was a moment to say, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does," this was it.

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 4 months ago | (#46797641)

How do those culpable enough to consummate such a transaction afford it after giving all that money to the Nigerian Prince?

If ever there was a moment to say, "You keep using those words. I do not think they mean what you think they do," this was it.

FTFU.

Fixed that for us.

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (1)

newbie_fantod (514871) | about 4 months ago | (#46797603)

I'm not sure how this would profit them - unless there is some unknown backdoor in TOR.

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (2)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#46797737)

I'm not sure how this would profit them - unless there is some unknown backdoor in TOR.

Unknown back doors - as opposed to those backdoors known by secret-government-types?

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797445)

1) If I'm someone who was into finding this illegal stuff, I surely would find my information somewhere other than Slashdot. (And slashdotters are typically smart enough to find their illegal stuff through less trackable means anyhow, if they were so inclined)

2) If I'm not someone who is into finding illegal stuff (this is my correct category), I wouldn't click on this from Slashdot anyway.

The only logical purpose for this link being on Slashdot is to popularize a site to collect data and/or lure people into a site to arrest/blackmail them.

Typically, I don't begrudge people for the seemingly random things that appear on Slashdot, but this certainly doesn't belong.

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (1)

Cito (1725214) | about 4 months ago | (#46798195)

Well ordering pot and hash oil worked at least

Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797937)

After reading the submission, I would dare to think this is an attempt at entrapment by law enforcement, more then likely it's the Feds at work here.

Not to be obvious, but Tor in my opinion is a complete failure, there seems to be so many holes in their system, that it too seems to be a decoy network for perhaps government spying, or it was a sincere network but is substitutable like every thing else on the internet.

  I think people forget just because you read a NSA memo targeting certain networks, doesn't mean they aren't part of the network. Its called misdirection, if you want people to use a network, without suspicion then you name it as a target. The stuff Snowden claims he grabbed up doesn't have anything in it other then what most people already knew, the US is leading a international spying ring, and the US is spying on its own.

I not completely a believer in the notion that certain networks are connected into government but I do get suspicious when something is just announced publicly! As does everyone else...

Good Luck With That (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797173)

Since Tor is not an anonymous network, and the Tor Anonymizing Browser is not anonymizing, we'll see how long this lasts.

"Llets you find?" (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 4 months ago | (#46797191)

Must be the textual form of that secret masonic handshake. Of course, must keep the dope and guns among us brothers!

Re:"Llets you find?" (1)

Opyros (1153335) | about 4 months ago | (#46797289)

It's how they spell "Lets" in Llamedos.

Re:"Llets you find?" (1)

mt1955 (698912) | about 4 months ago | (#46797609)

ack -- posting to undo mod error

Re:"Llets you find?" (3, Insightful)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#46797747)

ack -- posting to undo mod error

Ah, you must've found the +1 solameitscool super-secret modification option that people with "6" Karma get to use if the computer throws a 20 on the roll of the dice when it give you mod points.

Sorry you mis-used it, it will be awhile before you get another chance.

Re:"Llets you find?" (2)

mt1955 (698912) | about 4 months ago | (#46797793)

that is soooo close -- almost spot on -- how did you guess?

actually, I wanted to rate it Funny and Coincidentally-I'm-Reading-Soul-Music-Riight-Now but I hit the the Overrated option instead -- the poster never deserved that so I had to post to undo it

(note to self; never drink gin+Campari+Cointreau+lemon while moderating)

Re:"Llets you find?" (1)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about 4 months ago | (#46797403)

I'm starting to think the increasingly shitty summaries are some form of cry for help.

Of course I haven't actually read the summary so I wouldn't know.

I never get invited (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797245)

Thanks, Slashdot! I never get invited to the cool shit like this! Wait, what? All the cool dudes have moved somewhere else already?! Fuck you, Slashdot, you've ruined everything!!

Re:I never get invited (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 4 months ago | (#46797455)

If by cool, you mean too hip to post much, I feel you.

Take off that mask Alpha Charlie, we welcome your traitorous ass back in the fold.

NSA, all the way (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797257)

If people think the NSA isn't all over the dark web, they be dummies.

I hate to agree with an A/C, but... (5, Informative)

mmell (832646) | about 4 months ago | (#46797291)

what he said. While countermeasures can mediate the risk, you should assume that anything you send out electronically can be intercepted, decrypted and traced back to you. You can take steps to make this extremely difficult (hopefully more difficult than catching you is worth), you can certainly take steps I personally couldn't overcome without too much effort; but beating the intelligence gathering capabilities of one or more governments is at best an uncertain proposition (IMHO).

Re:NSA, all the way (4, Insightful)

Shakrai (717556) | about 4 months ago | (#46798031)

If people think the NSA isn't all over the dark web, they be dummies.

The NSA isn't that concerned with where you buy your pot. They aren't even that concerned with where the local gangbanger buys his guns, or where the local perv sources his kiddie porn.

If you're going to wear the tin foil hat at least direct it at the appropriate three letter agencies: FBI, DEA, ATF, et. al.

Good. (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about 4 months ago | (#46797273)

Now the FBI and the Sheriff would be able to set up stings more efficiently. If they ever got around to learning how the tubes connecting the computers work.

Re:Good. (2)

mysidia (191772) | about 4 months ago | (#46797305)

The real hidden service URL probably just changed.

The site advert'd in the Slashdot article is probably itself a "Sting" operation to tag members of the public for the purpose of building a blacklist for the /real/ search site at some URL we don't know about.

Re:Good. (5, Insightful)

duke_cheetah2003 (862933) | about 4 months ago | (#46797591)

The real hidden service URL probably just changed.

The site advert'd in the Slashdot article is probably itself a "Sting" operation to tag members of the public for the purpose
of building a blacklist for the /real/ search site at some URL we don't know about.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, that 'dark web' URL in slapped in such plain view.. screams honeypot. Pass.

Re:Good. (3, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | about 4 months ago | (#46797477)

Now the FBI and the Sheriff would be able to set up stings more efficiently.

FBI and the Sheriff? You have no real insight in how law enforcement works here in the US of A, do you?

There are dozens(!) of different police forces, and they seldom cooperate on anything, but try to not step on each others' toes. A sheriff is county police and would not be involved in any international or interstate crime sting. Speeding tickets, serving divorce notices, arresting the busker in front of the strip mall, signing reports of items stolen, sit in cars at local road work - that's the sheriff's department. Investigative work to catch internet facilitated high crime is not going to involve the sheriff.

Re:Good. (2)

MaskedSlacker (911878) | about 4 months ago | (#46797571)

To be fair, the parent is probably some furriner who watched all of the Great John Wayne's movies. He should be praised for this and the ignorance he has acquired should be rewarded. It's the American way.

I wish gun nuts and potheads would drop dead (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797283)

They are a worthless, useless burden on society who prey on the rest of us to fuel their addictive behavior. Fuck 'em all.

Re:I wish "you" would drop dead (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797481)

They are a worthless, useless burden on society who prey on the rest of us to fuel their addictive behavior. Fuck 'em all.

I wish cop kissers and barhoppers would drop dead. They are a useless, cowardly bane on the rest of us to fuel their defenseless behavior that turns a society into a perpetual Sandy Hook by making it a crime to defend yourself from a 15 year boy.

Yes, please continue to follow irresponsible cop lobby make work job security orders and herd yourselves like sheep waiting for the little boy to perform his executions. The cops that failed to follow through on their promise to protect anyone following their instructions to group hug while waiting for protection -- should be put to death.

Re:I wish "you" would drop dead (1)

MaskedSlacker (911878) | about 4 months ago | (#46797581)

Bar hoppers? What's wrong with those of us who like to drink at many watering holes?

Re:I wish "you" would drop dead (0, Flamebait)

bielcosmo (3621557) | about 4 months ago | (#46797595)

You are the person that Bloomberg has spent 50 million to protect the children of the US against this year. There is a reason that parents are just getting fed up with the gun nuts. Look at Europe. Only the military and police have guns, and crime is 1/10 of what it is here. Venezuela enacted a country wide gun ban, and violent firearm crime dropped by 1/1000. People like you are why the SAFE act and other lesligation to protect children has been enacted.

Re:I wish "you" would drop dead (2, Insightful)

sumdumass (711423) | about 4 months ago | (#46797675)

Wow... rationalize much?

I bet you are the AC you are responding to.

http://www.politifact.com/trut... [politifact.com]

Food for thought. Would you really want to live in Venezuela? Hitler made a lot of improvements in Nazi Germany before he became the man we love to hate. Somehow I'm not sure that making the trains run on time by making it so people no longer want to ride them is a good thing. But hey, to each their own.

Re:I wish "you" would drop dead (2)

user32.ExitWindowsEx (250475) | about 4 months ago | (#46797685)

Venezuela enacted a country wide gun ban, and violent firearm crime dropped by 1/1000.

So it's at 999/1000ths the level it was before?

Sure seems "effective".

Re:I wish "you" would drop dead (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797939)

You are the person that Bloomberg has spent 50 million to protect the children of the US against this year. There is a reason that parents are just getting fed up with the gun nuts. Look at Europe. Only the military and police have guns, and crime is 1/10 of what it is here. Venezuela enacted a country wide gun ban, and violent firearm crime dropped by 1/1000. People like you are why the SAFE act and other lesligation to protect children has been enacted.

Each of those European States are only 1/10 the population of all 50 of the American States. In recent times, Ireland wasn't too happy about England's police and their guns for more than a century; neither was Europe's ten million and Russia's 20 million defenseless deaths a few decades ago. Canada & Australia populations are about half that of California. Unlike the U.S., the island states of Japan and Great Britain have had centuries of unilateral culturalism--only a century or so for Canada's and Australia's 20 million white people.

Mom Protects Her Children from Armed Home Invasion [wxyz.com]
Oldster Gunman Stops Armed Cafe Robbery [youtube.com] .

The gun deaths in the States, most were suicides, self defense and some stupid accidents. Stop blaming others for not taking care of your children.

Me and TurkeyDance (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797285)

'Scuse me. TuckeyDance and I. We put out some good shit so we know the quality is first row first hand.

Re:Me and TurkeyDance (1)

turkeydance (1266624) | about 4 months ago | (#46797345)

i accept your accolade to return yours.

Bitcoin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797339)

I'm really surprised that not one person has mentioned bitcoin in the summary, article, or comments on both websites.

It must play a central role here; does this mean that it's now taken for granted?

Re:Bitcoin (2)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 4 months ago | (#46797435)

Counting you it still got in before 30 posts.

The great Godwin of my age.

That wound will never heal. I will carry it the rest of my life.

Re:Bitcoin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46798225)

The great Godwin of my age.

That wound will never heal. I will carry it the rest of my life.

I'm sure this sounded more dramatically quotable in your mind, but I assure you it was the alcohol talking.

Well there goes the neighborhood (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797343)

I would guess that half the illegal sites out there are already run by the Feds in order to fund their criminal enterprises (such as Holder's DOJ gun smuggling operation). Now they will compromise this search engine with a "National Security Letter" and squeeze out the legitimate sites and replace those with phoney sting operations in order to make themselves look good.

Jurisdictional issues (2)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#46797765)

National Security Letters work if the person receiving them is subject to US law.

The "bully stick of diplomacy" may work of the person is subject to the law of a country that wants to stay on friendly terms with the USA.

If this site is hosted in a country like North Korea (which we can probably rule out to to their self-imposed Internet near-exile), Iran, or one of a small number of other countries openly hostile with the US Government, it's highly unlikely that the US Government will be able to use "the force of law" to compromise the site itself. Far more likely is that they will have to sneak in covertly to compromise either it or the pipe leading to it, or they will find a way of "taking over" the URL without taking over the site itself.

HAHAhahaHAhaHAhaha (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797383)

smells7like7honeyplot.onion don't forget to use TAILnS.a Snowduhn

Having to know the URL, what security! (2)

SeaFox (739806) | about 4 months ago | (#46797471)

...sites that previously only could be found by users who knew the exact URL for the site.

Isn't that kinda how the Internet works. If your don't know the exact URL for a site and no one has posted a link to it on another site your do know, you're not going to reach it. It's only thanks to searching the indexing systems people can find stuff any other way.

Re:Having to know the URL, what security! (1)

arth1 (260657) | about 4 months ago | (#46797505)

Not entirely true. I wrote a search engine of sorts once that in stage one ran DNS queries on dictionary words, and in stage two attempted to fetch / from ports 80 and 443. The results were indexed and searchable.
Of course, the yield was pretty low, but still...

Re:Having to know the URL, what security! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797931)

DNS queries? Why didn't you simply search by IP address, which is what DNS queries resolve to?...

Re:Having to know the URL, what security! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46798065)

Some webservers are configured to trigger the IDS/IPS when someone attempts to access <ip>:80 instead of <domainname>:80. The reason is that it is easier for crackers to scan for IPs than to guess DNS-names.

The webserver Hiawatha comes to mind, which at least displays a different website for <ip>:80 accesses.

Re:Having to know the URL, what security! (2)

CtrlAltieDel (2853425) | about 4 months ago | (#46797797)

SeaFox, also if you use the search engine located at the link in this article, they all lead to yet another page where you are required to sign in. This is for each individual link that pops up when you do a topic search. Furthermore, all sign-in pages are identical. Seems this could be taken advantage of.

click my dark net url :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797489)

Turn yourself in, it is the exact op I'd do if I was NSA , use slashdot and have twits not twitters click me :)

ATTN: VLAD AND REZA LOCKWOOD (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797567)

Hi Vlad! *fart* How are you doing today? *fart* Still packing on the pounds? *fart* Are you at 500 pounds yet? *fart* How's baby Marticock doing? *fart* Has LSRE achieved a 20% uptime yet? *fart*

***FART***

Steganography by odor??? (1)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#46797791)

I'm sure there's a secret message hidden in your gaseous emmissions, but due to the inherent hazards of internet-stink-bombs my router refuses to pass odor packets into my network.

Re:ATTN: VLAD AND REZA LOCKWOOD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46798183)

"Marticock" will be high school age soon. How does THAT make you feel, Craig? 20721 for LIFE, eh?

Easily Find? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 4 months ago | (#46797589)

Its not hard in real life, and you have a better chance of not getting caught buying it.

Llovely! (1)

ShaunC (203807) | about 4 months ago | (#46797599)

Llaw enforcement will be lloving this new devellllopment, they'llll have yet another way to llook at the dark web.

Illegal faggots (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797607)

I hope they arrest those faggots. Spreading their diseases....

What is next sexlist the craigslist for hookers an (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797621)

What is next sexlist the craigslist for hookers and more?

Can it find Game of Thrones before it airs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797727)

Having to wait until 10:20PM is such a drag.

Naval Research Lab (1)

CtrlAltieDel (2853425) | about 4 months ago | (#46797761)

Tor was created by the Naval Research Lab; Tor was created by the United States Government. Should we believe what we are told about it's invincibility. I've read personal opinions online that basically say that even though it was created by the Navy, they were doing it for themselves and made it really unbreakable. With all events being taken into account, during the past months, I am not so sure I really trust anything concerning government any longer. A program like TrueCrypt is more safe feeling to me, now. It is not known who created it other than the True Crypt Foundation. It has successful records against the alphabets who were unable to break True Crypt hard-drives after years of trying. This fact alone leads one to believe that True Crypt is not government affiliated in any way.

Wait, you mean that until now ... (1)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#46797801)

... there wasn't any search engine for TOR?

How were the Chinese dissidents supposed to find the tor-based hidden services on how to combat the Chinese government? After all, that's why the US Government invented TOR, right? Right???

It's a twap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46797811)

Most certainly this site is run by some 3-letter government agency.

Buying guns? (3, Insightful)

MasseKid (1294554) | about 4 months ago | (#46797899)

Buying guns is perfectly legal. gunbroker.com, budsgunshop.com, walmart.com. Well, to be fair the last one tells you they are instore only, but the others will gladly and legally ship straight to your FFL.

Guns are not contraband (0)

hackus (159037) | about 4 months ago | (#46798005)

In the United States you have a right, and a duty to train and learn how to use firearms effectively.

If you don't, your government will, or someone else will and you won't like it.

HIstory says so.

Readng a little about why the Constitution was written like it was, and why people thought that way is a lesson every American should learn.

Otherwise we as a nation will repeat the those same mistakes.

Re:Guns are not contraband (1)

Noishkel (3464121) | about 4 months ago | (#46798035)

Well some of the ones listed in the link are. Or near enough to make no never mind. Pity thought because I'd be aallll over that Skorpion...

Re:Guns are not contraband (2)

HuguesT (84078) | about 4 months ago | (#46798081)

OK, so the US government has been recently shown conclusively to lie and spy on its own citizens, not to mention sending them to die on useless faraway wars, overtaxing them and maintaining a worrisome inequality regime for the benefit of only a few rich citizen. Clearly the US gov seems to be evil. Where are the righteous citizens taking up arms and bringing down that evil government?

Which well-armed milicia do you belong to?

Re:Guns are not contraband (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46798181)

OK, so the US government has been recently shown conclusively to lie and spy on its own citizens, not to mention sending them to die on useless faraway wars, overtaxing them and maintaining a worrisome inequality regime for the benefit of only a few rich citizen. Clearly the US gov seems to be evil. Where are the righteous citizens taking up arms and bringing down that evil government?

[All] experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

  -- Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence

Re:Guns are not contraband (1)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about 4 months ago | (#46798283)

In the United States you have a right, and a duty to train and learn how to use firearms effectively.

Well, if D&N taught me anything it's that throwing all your experience into one specialzation is folly. Civilian firearms are literally kids play. I looked at the export controll list, then became a crypographer.

I was there when TOR was young (1)

symbolset (646467) | about 4 months ago | (#46798025)

True forward anonymity is a useful thing and it served the myriad dissidents escaping opression which is good. Being involved in it also meant facilitating the use of others involved in slavery, abuse of minors, and so on. On balance I decided that I could not justify facilitating the downside, no matter how important the upside was. There has to be a better way than dancing with the devil. If you dance with the devil, you will pay his fee.

Don't worry about getting caught though (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#46798137)

Before they let you see anything, you probably need to check the little box that says "I am not a cop."

Not very useful (0)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about 4 months ago | (#46798153)

I typed Britney Spears and got only two results. Fail! I've had better luck with Pirate Bay.

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